Wednesday, February 08, 2012
Articles Horse Care Around the Barn Good Hair Day!

Good Hair Day!With climbing temps many of us are starting to think about showing off our horses, so we're paying a little more attention to grooming -- of our horses that is. We're taking a more critical look at our horses' manes and tails and trying to figure out the best way to protect and grow them both! Have any super tips or words of caution? Share your thoughts right here!

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# SandraC 2009-02-26 00:59
My best trick, don't do too much. If you spend a lot of time brushing or combing your horses mane or tail, you wind up pulling out a lot of it. I try to work with the tails as little as possible, I keep them conditioned and bagged and attend to them every other weekend. If you could see the other end of the horse in my picture, you would see it works. The mane I spend more time on and finger comb it with conditioner. Then I run a large tooth comb through it. I have two horses with beautiful manes and one that I call the hairless wonder. No matter what I do, he has almost no mane, beautiful tail, but no mane and this year, he started rubbing out what little he has. I have tried lots to get him to stop. Any ideas?

When I work on their coats, I do a good curry, then clean it off with a stiff brush (don't forget to pay attention to their favorite spots), then a light spray with diluted conditioner and final brush up with a soft brush. If I do this routine three times a week year round, they are shiny and beautiful in the summer and thick and fluffy in the winter. Their coat is also highly influenced by their diet and I'm thrilled that the barn we are in feeds an excellent diet.
 
 
# Saddle Tramp 2009-02-26 02:42
I know this is off subject, and i appoligize..but where did y'all find that picture of me, to use on this forum....

I'm sorry, but I just couldn't resist...
 
 
# Christi 2009-02-26 05:20
Saddle Tramp -- you're the best! I'm still laughing! :P
 
 
# ScoutNBoo 2009-02-26 05:36
SandraC, I had the same problem with my Paint gelding's mane. The stall that he was kept in at night had a small run made of pipe fencing and tall grass was growing just on the other side. He would stick his head through the fence to get to the grass and rubbed his mane off and dyed what was left a rust orange color. Knowing that it probably would turn out badly, I cut his mane off. To my surprise, it looked great. Having a short mane made his neck look thinner and longer, and now that it is growing back, it's thicker than it's been in 14 years. Of course not every horse rubs their mane off because they're after a midnight snack. Is it possible that something is causing his mane to itch? If that's the case, try a medicated dandruff shampoo like Selsun Blue. It works on us. It couldn't hurt to try it on them.
 
 
# Chase 2009-02-26 06:48
Yo tramp, nice hair! :D

Two words for multi-tasking equine care:
Skin So-Soft

Okay, so that was actually three words, but it repells bugs, and gives the coat that extra conditioning of vitamins or whatever the heck they call nutrients (coffee?) ...so the coat gleams like a $5 dollar boot shine.
 
 
# sticktoyhorse 2009-02-26 06:54
LOL Saddle Tramp....Good idea Chase...might just give that one a try!
 
 
# Sherman 2009-02-26 09:01
Skin,mane,tail, scratching etc.. is a form of deficiency.
RED CAL Free-Choice Supplement
"Hi-MAG" easy keeper formula also available!
BALANCED BY NATURE, NOT BY MAN!
With natural sea salt, colloidal trace minerals, calcium and herbs.
Omega Coat Check is especially formulated to help avoid dry, flaky and itchy skin and is EXTREMELY palatable! Great for Brood Mares too! Also fats are critical in our horses diets today. The typical diet simply does not contain enough - Omega Coat Check adds it! Linoleic, Linolenic, Oleic (Omega 3,6, and 9)PLUS Lauric Acid. - These special oils/fats in Omega Coat Check (crude), mechanically extracted soybean and coconut oils) slow the absorption of feed down too.
Unbalanced in minerals & lack there off is a problematic horse..
 
 
# Mary 2009-02-26 23:07
Cowboy magic and fingers to get out the winter wind whips in the mane and tail.
 
 
# Christi 2009-02-27 01:08
Has anyone tried Shapley's M-T-G? I'm a big Cowboy magic fan, too, but I've heard M-T-G works miracles. I've also heard it smells really, really bad. I need to get some and try it out. The one thing I've always been told -- and it is SO not practical is to only use your fingers, never a brush. I use my fingers as much as possible but when at a show and we're grooming or braiding several horses ... I love my Goody hair brush! 8)
 
 
# reinerslider 2009-02-27 02:32
I use MTG "Main Tail Groom." It works but it has its drawbacks. You buy the product a -yellow liquid full of sediment- in a clear spouted bottle. (shake well! it reeks of sulfur)

I apply it to the roots of my horses mane and rub it in. For the tail, I part through the shorter hair at the root on the top of the tail bone and work it into the skin. I do this only on horses that wont be in the sun, so I try to do it at night before turnout or put a flysheet with tail cover on a horse. It causes sun burn.

The product also is drying, so I follow the directions and try to apply only once a week. You will notice your horse will get dandruff. It also attracts dirt, but it works really well. It also cleans up a lot of fungal problems, and can be used on bald spots on the body too. (Provide there are not any open wounds).

We keep our horses tails wrapped year round too. However, We do not use tail bags. We have our own system because our horses go outside and need to swish flies.

We wash our horses tails and then deep condition them (leave it in for a long time before washing out!). We brush it out while we rinse out the conditioner, and let air dry. Once dry we hand pick it out and use a non oily detangler that dries. I then grasp my horses tail in a fist and slid my hand down to about his hocks. I then shake it left to right, so all the "guard" or short hairs fall out of my grasp. I then separate this hair in a pony tail holder.

The "long hair" I braid straight down from the bottom of the horses tail bone, not too tight. I then fold the braid into a bun, maybe 5 inches long.I then tie the beginning of a roll of vet wrap (cut it in 2 and tie it around one section of the braid). Then wrap around the whole bun/fold, until completely covered.

Then we take old bailing twine and cut all the knots out, making long strands, probably 15, so its not heavy and is proportional to the amount of hair in your horses tail. Then we fold the twine in half and attach it to the end of the wrapped tail by winding the remaining vet wrap around the twine and the wrapped tail. Then we trim it too a few inches above the ground. Then i let the guard ha its out of the pony tail holder. Those hairs wont break easily and can be left down. Shorter hairs break off when wrapped, but the wrap protects the long braided hair. Our horses then have a fake tail that will break off if snagged (the vet rap will tear) and leave their real tail still wrapped. The less twine you use the more frequently it will have to be replaced, the more you use the more weight your horses actual tail must support (causes breakage).

We also use fly repellent, fly masks and fly sheets to protect our horses from insects - this way they swish less. It helps to make sure there are no places they can rub in stalls and pastures too.

For mains, we avoid brushing them, combing them or really doing much with them unless they become super tangled. We condition them a lot too. We also, sometimes braid them in one inch sections, if the horse is turned out alone and cant rub. For some reason it seems to help.

I would highly recommend all these things, but mostly, healthy hair comes from a healthy horse. Feed appropriate food and vitamins. I dont feed hair growth supplements because I'm cheap and taking care of the horse and its hair works well enough. Both of our horses have tails that drag over a foot on the ground because we take care of the tails and re wrap them ever 2 weeks except in the winter, to help keep them conditioned (we rewash) and avoid breakage.

It also helps to use a "leave in" conditioner to soften and strengthen hair, simply spray it in their mane a few times a week, and in the unwrapped portion of tail hair. Go with unscented so you don't attract bugs, bug bites cause swishing and itching. I also use a stiff body brush on the head of his tail when i brush him, I cant brush it with a hair brush while its wrapped and it supposedly promotes growth. (idk if its true but its worth a shot, he likes it anyway)
 
 
# lauram 2009-03-01 00:11
I was at a horse expo in MI and was talking to a lady who also had a Paint. I remarked that it looked like he had burns all over his body.

That's when she told me she had used MTG on him and he had a reaction. She ended up having to shave all of the horse's body, yet he still ended up burned from it.

I'm not sure what happened to cause this, whether she applied too much, whatever...I just wanted to put it out there to be careful with it. Maybe try the MTG on a small portion of the mane or tail for a few days before you apply it liberally.

I had thought to use it myself on my Paint since he has a scraggly forelock, but now I'm a bit leery of doing so.
 
 
# reinerslider 2009-03-02 06:22
MTG for some reason really intensifys sun burn, that is why i apply it only when the horses will be inside for several hours.

lauram's post is a good reminder to test all products in a small area before continuing use, and to read directions.
 
 
# horsemanship 2009-03-03 18:31
These are the products that I use to get a horse ready for show and get great results. For the mane and tail I use MTG, it does smell, like bacon on a campfire. (it can burn some skin, not sure why, test first.) However it will make the mane and tail grow, grow and grow. I use Selson Blue a few days before showtime if I think their is dandruff. To heal scrapes and make the skin soft so that the hair grows back smooth and scarless I use Corona Ointment, it works wonders. I don't use a lot of hoof products because I think that when you do,you can't stop, the hooves start to depend on the products. If the horses hooves are chipping, splitting or generally not so good, I use a feeding product, The Farriers Secre
t, but since I'n not messing with the natural balance of the hoofs by putting all these ointments and stuff on them, I rarely need supplements. For the coat, I use a product called Daily 72 and it works like magic, the coat is so shiny naturally from this product that you need to were sunglasses. This product has a complete balance of everything your horse needs..I also switch to straight alfalfa about a month before show season, gradually that is. Then I Seminole wellness feed. or any Seminole product, depends on horse type. I also groom everyday.
 
 
# Christian Cowgirl 2009-03-04 09:06
Hey, my Daddy told me to use Baby Oil. it is messy bussiness but it works well and by the end your hands are so soft. fingers and combs I agree are the best for long arabian manes! sometimes it doesn't work but I have also heard that the manes don't have to be very thick so if you tear a lot out know as long as it looks good and still moderate on thickness than you have accomplished the goal!:D
 
 
# Saddle Tramp 2009-03-04 15:29
for scrapes and stuff, and I know this sounds goofy, but it has worked for years, we use bacon grease, after the initial ointment for infection or whatever, coat it with bacon grease (lightly) the hair will come back it's original color, and you'll never know it was there.
 
 
# cowgirl38 2009-03-06 19:33
My dad always told me the same thing about the baby oil, so that's what I always use. It also works if you're from the midwest like me and have a Burr problem...put that in the tail and mane, and come back in a couple days (if your horses are out in the pasture/woods all the time) and they will come right out.
 
 
# lauram 2009-03-07 02:38
I heard Pam works for burrs too. I know some Golden Retriever people use it before their dogs go out in the field. I would imagine it would work on manes and tails too.
 
 
# thunderbayranch 2009-03-10 04:38
Good Feed
Braiding
Flax Seed
Wrapping
They all work wonders!!

About 2 years ago when I had a horse I was a little naive and didn't know much about different things in the horse market. I seen a comb to help burrs, thin, and untangle manes/tails. I didn't do much research and decided to just buy the product and use it. That day I went home and used it. My horses tail went from real long to super short! Well a friend told me later "Well that is a thinning comb"

It has been almost 2 years now. Thankfully my horses tail is almost down to his Fetlock. I had been watching on RFD-TV a lot of horse shows and one day Tommy Garland came on, he talked about braiding the manes and tails, wrapping, ect. Winter 2008 I wrapped Thunder's tail and braided his mane. Over time it grew very nicely, during the summer I had stopped braiding and wrapping, instead I brushed every day. That took a lot of hair out and we had a short tail and mane again.

So this winter I have wrapped and braided. I also have found out if you use Show Sheen to help untangle you can braid the hair but the bands don't like to stay in, BUT I have found a way to bypass that. Put the bands in and use Electrical Tape over top the bands. (YES it looks funny if you have a light colored horse BUT IT WORKS) And the best part is Electrical Tape won't pull hairs out or stick to the hairs. The downfall I found with it though is when it is cold out you have to warm it in your hands and quickly put it on the hair.

As for the tail I wrap the whole thing in vet wrap and put a full tail wrap on it. So far this has worked great this winter!!

THE ONLY DOWNFALL TO BRAIDING:
Braid to tight and the hair breaks

We accidentally braided on of the mares tails too tight and a clump of hair came out when we upbraided it a week later. So if you do braids don't make them tight.

ALSO: We will do braids in Thunder's mane and we will take Electrical tape and tape the whole entire braid. Yes that is a LOT of Electrical Tape, but if you go to your local store a lot of times you can get E.T. for cheap in the bundles.

I found my horses lost weight this year and switched feeding programs to Alfalfa, Grass hay, Vitality & Safe Choice grain (Hand Mixed). Which helped improve their over all look. It also helped with their mane/tails to start growing. Now with Thunder I put him on regular Flax Seed from the health food store and his Mane/Tail have started growing faster than before. So that might be another thing to look into.

Hope this helps some!!
 
 
# curidin 2009-03-14 12:44
Lasersheen works great on my horses. It creates a silky shiney coating on the tail and mane. Keeps them silky and easy to groom for days. also repels dirt. Beware of spraying under saddle and girth area as it will allow saddle to slip.
 
 
# COWGIRLLOVESRANGER 2009-03-19 14:03
yes cowboy magic and runing your fingers through the mane and tail works well you do that until all the tangels are out then you take a comb through the mane and tail and then you braid the mane and tail and bag the tail and it works well.;-)
 
 
# itempowerment 2009-03-20 01:20
Tip One....When clipper training I use a small hand-held personal fan. You know...the cheep ones you can buy at the drug store. They are battery operated. These simulate the clippers well. They make the buzzing sound and put out air. Start far away from your horse and work closer and closer to your horse as he gets used to it. Be patient...he'll get it. The fan works great because it is portable, cordless and if it hits the ground it doesn't cost much.

Tip Two.... If you trail ride and you and your horse are bothered by bugs, get a box of Bounce fabric softener sheets (only Bounce works) and put a sheet between your horses ears attached to your headstall and the bugs will go away. It works best on deer flys.
 
 
# Diamonds ring 2009-03-24 20:35
I am a hairstylist, what I would recommend to untangle mane and tail would be to apply heavy conditioner (mane & tail or whatever) to a dry tail/mane, don't wet. Get a big tooth comb ("bone" comb works great, it has a long tail and it very hard, you can get one a Sally's beauty supply) Start at the bottom and work up in small sections slowly getting tangles out as you work up. This doesn't cause a bigger mess and doesn't pull out hair as bad. When you finish then rinse out condtioner. Braiding the tail afterwards will keep it from tangling. Good luck, happy combing!
 
 
# Bigredhorse 2009-03-26 01:41
I love the product M-T-G put out by Shapleys. I manage a tack shop so my horse is the crash test dummy for all kinds of grooming products. That one works really well to promote hair growth. It is kind of greasy and smells a little funky, but my horse grew 7 inches on his tail in just 2 months by using it a few times a week. I also like Extreme Labs detangler. It's expensive, but works way better than ShowSheen or Cowboy Magic.
 
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